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2018 Rule Ideas

2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Rick Smetana » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:09 pm

Does anyone see any rule changes we need to make? Opening this up for discussion.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Rick Smetana » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:23 pm

1. I would like your thoughts on allowing teams to roster as many minor leaguers as they want during the season, but then only allow only 5 minor league roster freezes the following year. You would either have to put on the active roster, or lose them.

We have had two cases, where (with the current system of only allowing 5 minor leaguers at one time) a couple of owners had to activate a minor league player and then immediately reserve, using a charged transaction, then turn right around and reserve them, picking up a new player, and losing the rights to the minor league freeze the following year. Right now that is a loop hole that I don't like.

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2. Speaking of that loop hole, I would like to do away with that loop hole on all transactions, making it impossible to activate, then immediately reserve him or vice versa. I would like to see a minimum 48 hour waiting period before any player that has been activated/reserved, before he can transacted again.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby geoflin » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:57 am

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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Steve Shiffrin » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:15 pm

I agree that the number of minor leaguers should not be restricted during the season, but only 5 should be permitted as keepers. This new system already negatively impacts teams trying to rebuild and eliminating the restriction would help rebuilding teams.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Steve Shiffrin » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:03 am

I must say that the restriction also harms contending teams. Ordinarily, a dump trade involves prospects, but the value of trading a prospect declines if the weaker team must give up a member of the farm. If the minor league draft is not scrapped altogether (keeping the current farm rosters), I would give all future acquisitions the same price ($3)(this would give more flexibility for trades), would eliminate the restriction on the in season farm roster, and would not increase the price of the roster players from year to year until the year after they have been activated.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby geoflin » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:57 pm

I'm OK with the limit of 5 minor leaguers but could also live without that limit under certain conditions. I think the only way to add a minor leaguer to any team should be via trade. I think if you trade away a minor leaguer and do not receive one in return you should not be allowed to pick up a free agent minor leaguer. I do not think we should allow minor leaguers to be waived and a different one claimed. I also think that any minor leaguers drafted in the June draft should be off limits until the following spring.
I like the idea of minor league salaries not increasing over time, or possibly having a cap on the highest salary for a minor leaguer. One of the problems with the current rules is that if I draft a team's top prospect into my $5 slot, but he happens to be in Single A ball, it might be 3 years or more before he reaches the majors, and keeping him as a rookie at $8 is not necessarily desirable or representative of his draft value.
One of the things we used to do in a league I was in 35 years ago was to have a small supplemental draft at the All Star break. It gave us something fun to do when there were no games being played. How about if during the All Star break we were to allow each owner to waive one or two current minor leaguers (using the same rolling format as we used this spring in the minor league draft) and claim new ones because during the season many minor leaguers see their values change - highly rated ones have poor years or get injured and their values decrease, some minor leaguers who were not on the radar in the spring suddenly develop quickly and become much more highly rated. Maybe if we did this it would be a possible time to allow claims of players drafted in June and thus add some excitement to our leagues at mid-season.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Rick Smetana » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:43 pm

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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Steve Shiffrin » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:23 pm

I may be the only one who thinks this, but I would not have a minor league draft. The institution of that draft makes trading more difficult and it means that fewer prospects are available in FAAB. It has entirely changed the way Mocksports operates from the draft, through the FAAB process to trading, and in my opinion not to the good.
A word about Fantrax: Fantrax does not allow you to prioritize free agents mixed with waived players. So if you want to reserve a player and pick up a waived player, followed by a free agent if you do not get the waived player, if both of your claims are successful, you will get both players while dropping one (which, of course is unfair to the owner who might also have bid on the free agent). This also creates an illegal lineup. Dropping one of the players sometimes does not solve the illegal lineup problem and the commissioner has to intervene.
The work around in most leagues is to have waiver claims one night and free agent claims the next. On Roto allows you to prioritize waived players with free agents.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Steve Shiffrin » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:14 am

I would like the following rule to be considered: VICKREY FAAB: For winning bids, the number of units deducted from the winner’s FAAB budget shall be the amount of the second highest bid, plus one (1). Under this rule, if an owner bids $4 and no one else bids, the owner gets the player for $1. I am in a 12 team league which uses this method. Every member of the league favors this method. We have used it for many years, but could not use it this year because a different service we went to could not handle it. So we are moving back to OnRoto which can. (I realize that the plan is to have LA's handle FAAB rather than the service).
The advantage of this Vickrey method is that it helps teams to rebuild. In the Mocksports context, it would also mean that teams would have more keepers leading to shorter auctions. Theoretically, it might mean more FAAB bids because owners do not pay as much for players, but it is rare that any owner in our leagues uses up the entire FAAB budget. In fact, I found only one instance in a spot check of 7 or so of our leagues of an owner who used up his entire FAAB budget.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby Rick Smetana » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:49 am

That is a good idea. Will look at it when we start gearing up for 2018.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas any chance?

Postby Steve Shiffrin » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:35 pm

Re: 2018 Rule Ideas
Postby Steve Shiffrin » 11 Oct 2017 10:14 am

I would like the following rule to be considered: VICKREY FAAB: For winning bids, the number of units deducted from the winner’s FAAB budget shall be the amount of the second highest bid, plus one (1). Under this rule, if an owner bids $4 and no one else bids, the owner gets the player for $1. I am in a 12 team league which uses this method. Every member of the league favors this method. We have used it for many years, but could not use it this year because a different service we went to could not handle it. So we are moving back to OnRoto which can. (I realize that the plan is to have LA's handle FAAB rather than the service).
The advantage of this Vickrey method is that it helps teams to rebuild. In the Mocksports context, it would also mean that teams would have more keepers leading to shorter auctions. Theoretically, it might mean more FAAB bids because owners do not pay as much for players, but it is rare that any owner in our leagues uses up the entire FAAB budget. In fact, I found only one instance in a spot check of 7 or so of our leagues of an owner who used up his entire FAAB budget.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas
Postby Rick Smetana » 12 Oct 2017 08:49 am

That is a good idea. Will look at it when we start gearing up for 2018.
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Re: 2018 Rule Ideas

Postby geoflin » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:57 am

I am in favor of Steve's idea for Vickrey FAAB bidding. Particularly after seeing the results of some of this year's bidding where there has been a large dollar discrepancy between the winning bid and the runner up (if anyone else even bid) I would like to see us move to this method.
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