BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby EdMcGranahan » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:44 pm

Crosley wrote:FAAB claim Sent: 27 Jul 2017 07:29:25 pm
adavis wrote:Shimbashi -

Waive Yunel Escobar LAA 3B
Claim Eduardo Nunez BOS 3B $10

    APPROVED - $10; 1st charge, Week 17
    Runner-up bid: Sent: 27 Jul 2017 08:20:47 pm
    EdMcGranahan wrote:SHOELESS
    Claims Eduardo Nunez MI BOS @ $8



I'll go $11!
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby EdMcGranahan » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:48 pm

SHOELESS
Activates Derek Fisher OF HOU
Reserves George Springer OF HOU

    APPROVED - $2 (from minor league roster)
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby Crosley » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:24 pm

EdMcGranahan wrote:
Crosley wrote:FAAB claim Sent: 27 Jul 2017 07:29:25 pm
adavis wrote:Shimbashi -

Waive Yunel Escobar LAA 3B
Claim Eduardo Nunez BOS 3B $10

    APPROVED - $10; 1st charge, Week 17
    Runner-up bid: Sent: 27 Jul 2017 08:20:47 pm
    EdMcGranahan wrote:SHOELESS
    Claims Eduardo Nunez MI BOS @ $8



I'll go $11!


If I could bid in this league, I would have, too! One of the truly underrated players for FBB, I think.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby geoflin » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:37 pm

Same question I asked in Feller - OnRoto lists Nunez as becoming available on 7/28, shouldn't FAAB end at 10 PM on 7/30? I thought we go with what OnRoto says for MLB transactions.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby EdMcGranahan » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:44 pm

geoflin wrote:Same question I asked in Feller - OnRoto lists Nunez as becoming available on 7/28, shouldn't FAAB end at 10 PM on 7/30? I thought we go with what OnRoto says for MLB transactions.


That was my point in Joe's previous post
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby geoflin » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:57 pm

Section 5.4.3 of the rules says OnRoto is the current source for MLB transactions. Section 5.9.1 says the clock for FAAB begins at noon on the day the current source lists the player as available. OnRoto lists that date as 7/28. As I live near Boston I know for a fact that OnRoto is correct. Although the trade for Nunez was announced earlier in the week, he did not join the team until 7/28 and was not on the roster until about 3 PM when Marrero was sent to the minors to make room for him.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby Crosley » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:10 pm

This is where reliance on OnRoto can be problematical if you try to compare it to other sources. The OnRoto player notes for Nunez reference his acquisition from SF on the 26th. He is also listed in "MLB Transactions YTD" at OnRoto as moving to Boston on that date. That puts the FAAB expiration time as 10 pm on the 28th. I have to go by what's on OnRoto if we're to be consistent with the rules.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby Crosley » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:15 pm

geoflin wrote:Section 5.4.3 of the rules says OnRoto is the current source for MLB transactions. Section 5.9.1 says the clock for FAAB begins at noon on the day the current source lists the player as available. OnRoto lists that date as 7/28. As I live near Boston I know for a fact that OnRoto is correct. Although the trade for Nunez was announced earlier in the week, he did not join the team until 7/28 and was not on the roster until about 3 PM when Marrero was sent to the minors to make room for him.


This is not meant to be snarky in any way. I would appreciate being pointed to the OnRoto listing that shows the 28th as the effective date of the trade. That is the date the Red Sox officially activated Nunez on their roster (according to mlb.com), but the trade transaction shows up on the 26th on both OnRoto and MLB based on what I can find.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby geoflin » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:20 pm

Look at available hitters in Robinson or Sparky where any FAAB claims have not yet been processed. He was not even listed until 7/28.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby geoflin » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:40 pm

So this raises another question - if OnRoto itself is inconsistent, listing the trade date as 7/26 (which is correct) but the available date (when he was placed on the roster) as 7/28, which do we use? Seems to me that for players coming off the DL, it might be announced that a player will be activated on a certain date in the future, but he is not eligible in Mocksports for regular, not early, activation until the date he is actually activated, not the date it is announced he will eventually be activated.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby jayme6767 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:59 pm

Cobbstoppers and
Willmington quicksteps announce trade

Cobbstoppers get:
Annibel sanchez p det
Rick porcello p bos

Quicksteps get:
Chad green p nyy
Ja happ p tor
Honeywell p TB
And mckenzie p cle

    APPROVED - with balancing moves below
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby geoflin » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:09 pm

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reserve Alex Presley OF Det
claim Ben Revere OF LAA

    APPROVED at established salary
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby Rick Smetana » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:35 pm

Brooklyn Bums

reserve Deven Marrero 2B Bos
move Erik Gonzalez 2B Cle (was MI)
claim Adeiny Hechavarria MI TB

    APPROVED at established salary
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby Rick Smetana » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:41 pm

geoflin wrote:So this raises another question - if OnRoto itself is inconsistent, listing the trade date as 7/26 (which is correct) but the available date (when he was placed on the roster) as 7/28, which do we use? Seems to me that for players coming off the DL, it might be announced that a player will be activated on a certain date in the future, but he is not eligible in Mocksports for regular, not early, activation until the date he is actually activated, not the date it is announced he will eventually be activated.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first case of OnRoto switching their activation dates. For next year, I would like to switch to Twitter "MLBRosterMoves" as our sole source for transaction dates. It is a twitter feed from MLB Baseball, so it is a fairly reliable source.
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Re: BELL AL Transactions: WEEK 17 (Effective 7/24 - 7/30)

Postby waters96 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:26 pm

Rick Smetana wrote:
geoflin wrote:So this raises another question - if OnRoto itself is inconsistent, listing the trade date as 7/26 (which is correct) but the available date (when he was placed on the roster) as 7/28, which do we use? Seems to me that for players coming off the DL, it might be announced that a player will be activated on a certain date in the future, but he is not eligible in Mocksports for regular, not early, activation until the date he is actually activated, not the date it is announced he will eventually be activated.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first case of OnRoto switching their activation dates. For next year, I would like to switch to Twitter "MLBRosterMoves" as our sole source for transaction dates. It is a twitter feed from MLB Baseball, so it is a fairly reliable source.


The problem with that is it's very hard to read. You have to scroll through a lot to get to where you need to go.
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